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Post by ccogburn on Jun 6, 2019 14:01:33 GMT -5
Not impeached but in jail. I think this is significant because I don't think the speaker of the house would come out and say that against the president unless they had some big-time evidence that's leaning that way.
Starting to think these Mexican tariffs are just another deflection or distraction created by the Trump Administration.
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Post by Blitz on Jun 7, 2019 7:21:49 GMT -5
She said, "in prison after he leaves office." Trump would probably pardon himself anyway!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 18:34:58 GMT -5
Trump was attacking Pelosi today, she doesn't know what she just did. Trump will rip her apart daily, she made a huge mistake.
"... I don't think the speaker of the house would come out and say that against the president unless they had some big-time evidenc,,,"
cc... i'm sure Trump has crossed the line here and there (who hasn't) however, just look at Adam Schiff and all his talk that he had this and that information on collusion and nothing was put
forth. Nadler pushes forward Impeachment daily now he's backed off.
The Dems harass Trump every day, every hour, every minute, every second, with a lot of made up Fake News, and Trump just shrugs it off now because he's used to it and I'll bet it bothers him
less and less each day.
Trump was elected because people wanted some one different and Trump is certainly different, maybe just a little bit to different.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 19:10:48 GMT -5
In case it hadn't been already, "elections have consequences" has now been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by ccogburn on Jun 7, 2019 23:38:13 GMT -5
Well of course the Dems are gonna attack Trump on a daily basis. Going on social media 30 tweets a day, name calling anyone and everyone who dislikes him. Trump reaps what he sews, he asks for it on a daily basis. I have no problem with that, I read the man's tweets. He deserves it if you ask me. In fact I think he enjoys getting harassed by the dems, it gives him the right to insult them on social media which we all know he loves to do. Trump creates his own reality TV show on twitter.
That's one of the biggest problems I have with Trump we all know when he's taking a dump. The tweets start rolling out..
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Post by ccogburn on Jun 25, 2019 16:47:48 GMT -5
somebody convince me that all these sexual assault allegations against Trump isn't going to come back to haunt him after he leaves office? They didn't let Bill Cosby off the hook or Harvey Weinstein? Or Kevin Spacey he's getting charged too right?
So we're supposed to believe that Trump's going to get away with all these allegations even though he says on tape that he reaches out and grabs women by the genitals. So who are we supposed to believe the women? Or Trump?
Sounds like Trump just uses his money and power to reach out and grab women see what happens take your chances back 20 years ago nobody would say a word anyway no matter if you did it or not. Just grab them by the crotch see what happens see how they react.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 17:07:54 GMT -5
somebody convince me that all these sexual assault allegations against Trump isn't going to come back to haunt him after he leaves office? They didn't let Bill Cosby off the hook or Harvey Weinstein? Or Kevin Spacey he's getting charged too right? So we're supposed to believe that Trump's going to get away with all these allegations even though he says on tape that he reaches out and grabs women by the genitals. So who are we supposed to believe the women? Or Trump? Sounds like Trump just uses his money and power to reach out and grab women see what happens take your chances back 20 years ago nobody would say a word anyway no matter if you did it or not. Just grab them by the crotch see what happens see how they react. Which is why I think they told Al Franken to fall on the sword as well. He'll be out in force as "I did what was right, etc..."
They are going to drag up everybody that Trump has ever brushed up against, looked at, talked to, done business with, you name it........the heat we've seen so far is just like the oven preheating.....it hasn't hit full on mania and mud slinging yet.
It'll be brought up, you can believe it. But, Trump seems to like the pressure. As he says, we'll see.
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Post by ccogburn on Jun 25, 2019 17:24:12 GMT -5
I get you fortune but the problem Trump has is he admitted he does this on tape. He grabs them by the crotch and they let him do it because of who he is. Are you not guilty of sexual assault when it's on tape? How can these women not be credible? He's on tape admitting his guilt. I think that's a problem in a court of law.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 18:04:03 GMT -5
Concur. Which is why, as we have discussed, voting for him in 2016 made me feel dirty but what were we supposed to do? Hillary? No way. The tape of him saying what he did, as a father to a wonderful daughter and husband to the greatest woman I've ever known, both of which I have a ton of respect for, I had to take a VERY deep breath when I colored in the bubble beside his name.
Again, surely dread 2020. Can't hand the Country to the socialist coming up the hill with pitchforks to rob the most productive members of our society, but having to punch the Trump ticket again is just going to be hard. As Spok has said in the past, the guy is a ass, and I'm 1000% against the trade war/tariff situation, but there's no way in hell I'd ever vote for somebody spewing a 70-90% tax rate as fair, free this and free that, green deal, anti business policies that I've been hearing from the other side.
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Post by ccogburn on Jun 25, 2019 18:39:18 GMT -5
I get it about the socialism, but there is no way I can vote for this guy. I've been around too many women who have experienced sexual harassment on every level. Obviously Trump has abused his power to prey on women. Even with the allegation I voted for Trump in 2016, but like you I was voting against Hillary. His tweets and obnoxious behavior have convinced me he's a predator. Can you imagine sending ur wife off to a job when her boss is gonna come up and grab her between the legs to see her reaction? Whether she's gonna give in to him? Or the type of boss who will just never say no to "leave me alone." I've lived it with a couple women, and it's despicable. These girls were either forced to be harassed on a daily basis or leave and have to get another job. It was how it was in the 80's 90's, I'm a man with power and no matter what you say I have more money & attorneys that will discredit you. I'm convinced Trump was "that guy." I don't think he was a persistent harasser, he just took his shot at every female he desired. Grab them see what happens, if they resist move on to the next one. But to do it physically, by grabbing someone? That's a real pervert, sicko IMO. Think about it if Trump went up to ur wife or daughter and grabbed them between the legs? Pretty sick feeling I'm getting right now.
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Post by Blitz on Jun 26, 2019 7:40:06 GMT -5
I'm convinced Trump was "that guy." Just because you're convinced, that doesn't make it true. This is all guilty until proven innocent. It is just too convenient that these women come forward now when they are 'has beens' trying to sell books and get 5 minutes more fame and fortune. I would also add, what responsibility do the women have for their risky behavior. Come on, man. She went into a private dressing room to model lingerie. Then she said she froze up after Trump made advances. Does frozen sound like STOP. It was a public place. Did she scream R A P E? Did she go to the police at the time? Were there any witnesses? Even Stormy's story, a porn star, has issues and her 'well meaning' attorney is looking very corrupt. That said, if it is true, I agree it is dispicable. Until then, people should have some proof to make accusations and the press should have some evidence before printing accusations that have zero proof. How many lies do you have to print before it seen as the truth... ![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQnN86PrcNr7DiMiahxvEyHr6vtpX34aaaHpePxddiFOuDc2jK) If you're going into a private dressing with a man changing into this... what signals are you sending to the guy? I've done this before and the signal is let's play... As a moderator here, I am getting very tired of 'guilty until proven innocent'. We use 'links' here for a 'trust but verify' forum. Then there's this too... www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/WASHINGTON — Just days before the midterm elections, Sen. Chuck Grassley asked the federal authorities on Friday to investigate another person he says made false claims against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Grassley, in a letter to the Department of Justice and FBI, said a woman by the name of Judy Munro-Leighton took responsibility for authoring an anonymous letter that made allegations that Kavanaugh and a friend &*@#d her. After she was tracked down and interviewed by Senate investigators, the woman recanted and said she was not, in fact. the author and had never met Kavanaugh. Grassley claims the woman is a left-wing activist and told investigators it was "just a ploy," he wrote in the letter.
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Post by ccogburn on Jun 26, 2019 11:29:42 GMT -5
Okay blitz the man comes out and says he grabs women by the crotch because they let him because of who he is. Then you have women that say that he did this and you want to claim that it's probably not true?
women who were sexually harassed in the eighties and nineties never said a word because if they did they would lose their job. Most of the time it was a boss doing this kind of behavior.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 14:44:10 GMT -5
Pelosi, Schumer and the Fake News proponents are the ones who should be in jail because of their constant lying, false statements and manipulating etc. etc. of Trumps words and actions, at least that's how I see it.
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Post by ipsophakto on Jun 27, 2019 4:28:53 GMT -5
The E Jean Carroll &*@# allegation has imploded spectacularly. Lol
She refers to &*@# as “sexy” - making Anderson Cooper stammer and cut to commercial.
She refused to press criminal charges - despite claiming to have a coat with possible DNA, and Mayor deBlasio promising to investigate despite statute of limitations.
She sat on these allegations for 25 years. (Why now?)
She’s selling a book. (Oh the timing, lol)
She’s tied to Lisa Bloom, Gloria Allred’s crooked lawyer daughter infamous for paying the previous false accusers who came at Trump and also imploded.
Bergdorf Goodman is a high end retail store with a COMMISSIONED sales staff and security who tend to customers diligently. No, customers don’t get &*@#d there.
On Carroll’s Facebook posts 7 years ago she enthusiastically said she’s a “MASSIVE fan of ...... The Apprentice”.... lol. She likes watching Trump - the guy who she says &*@#d her?
Woomp woomp!
Lastly... her whole story about the alleged incident was lifted straight out of an episode of Law & Order SVU, season 13, episode 11. A judge meets an online date to fulfill a &*@# fantasy with a women .... in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman’s - in lingerie. Lol!!!
Wow...what ARE the odds. I’d almost swear she was paid to look foolish.
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Post by ipsophakto on Jun 27, 2019 4:31:22 GMT -5
E Jean Carroll is a nut. This commercial reminds me of what she must have been like as a younger woman...
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Post by ipsophakto on Jun 27, 2019 4:48:22 GMT -5
On a serious note... in my thread about the whole coup attempt by Obama / Hillary I mentioned the blackmail layer used to compromise politicians and officials.
Nxivm was such an operation, recruiting and using women and children as sex slaves / bait. Their leaders were just found guilty on all charges. Their 11 “day care centers” around the world closed. Their client list about to be public.
We all witnessed that kind of smear attempted by Blasey-Ford against Kavanaugh...an innocent man, As Pelosi admitted...they call it a Wrapup smear.
Julie Sweatnik’s allegations - (another Avenatti client) fell apart.
We saw Jussie Smollet’s hate hoax blow up in his face.
We saw Stormy Daniels and her fraudulent lawyer Avenatti crash and burn.
If you don’t see the pattern here - and realize there’s a targeted array of cartoonishly false allegations being aimed at Trump and anyone around him - you’re not dealing in reality.
This world is an ugly and brutal place, but justice is finally getting traction and these hoaxes no longer work.
The “Russian collusion” hoax FAILED.
E Jean Carroll FAILED
Trump never had sex with Stormy. She admitted that. You’ll find out eventually why she was paid....and it wasn’t for sex. Lol
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Post by Blitz on Jun 27, 2019 7:08:23 GMT -5
Okay blitz the man comes out and says he grabs women by the crotch because they let him because of who he is. Then you have women that say that he did this and you want to claim that it's probably not true? women who were sexually harassed in the eighties and nineties never said a word because if they did they would lose their job. Most of the time it was a boss doing this kind of behavior. I'm saying with zero doubt that at least some of it is not true. Again, how many lies does it take to turn a lie into truth. All of it happened before he was POTUS... way before. I do not condone it. That said, I did hear the crotch grab video. So, that is at least verifiable. That sounded like locker room talk to me where one dude is trying to one up his buddy with banter that may or may not be true. Sort of like women understating their number of sexual partners and men overstating their number of partners. I do not like Trump. I do not like unsubstantiated claims or news with anonymous sources that have not been vetted or fact checked. Everyone is entitled their opinion but on this forum I would rather people's opinions not be rants to vent off personal anger, be backed up with fact based references, links, or clearly stated that this is my opinion. Politics becomes very emotion driven. To ameliorate the effects of emotion related to presidential politics I try to think about a landslide victory. Most presidential victories by popular vote are only few percentages above 50%. So, roughly 1/2 of the USA likes the person elected and the other 1/2 think he's the devil. So, in an argument about the man your best chance of winning an argument is a flip of a coin. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_popular_vote_margin
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Post by ipsophakto on Jun 27, 2019 18:29:14 GMT -5
Okay blitz the man comes out and says he grabs women by the crotch because they let him because of who he is. Then you have women that say that he did this and you want to claim that it's probably not true? women who were sexually harassed in the eighties and nineties never said a word because if they did they would lose their job. Most of the time it was a boss doing this kind of behavior. Let’s check with E Jean Carroll, circa 2012.... ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-GjUG0U0AEoTbz.jpg)
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Post by ccogburn on Jun 27, 2019 18:56:22 GMT -5
I like the quote I just read we've become a nation so divided that if accusations are made against someone we support, then we support the indefensible.
Everybody knows what Trump was like in New York. They all know what type of person he was Quit denying it just admit that he's a dirtbag and you're going to vote for him anyway.
I guess you believe that all these 20 to 30 something women are just making things up against Trump? At least most of my Republican friends know he's a dirtbag but they're going to vote for him anyway no matter what.
What about the tape that he says he's just going to go grab women by the pussy cuz they let him? Is that not a dirtbag for you?
Like I said before I don't want eight years of Democrats in office but I think that's what we're going to get because this guy just comes across as a dirtbag. And I don't think the American people are going to vote him back in office.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 21:54:43 GMT -5
cc... you don't have a choice IMO, it's Trump the dirt bag or Socialist (think Venezuela), liars (both parties) and harassing Dems who do nothing for the good old USA.
The Dems now admit there's a problem at the border after years of saying there was not a problem.
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Post by ccogburn on Jun 27, 2019 23:38:26 GMT -5
I get it taxx I just think Trump's got so much baggage & he's despised by a lot of folks. I think the GOP could be stuck with another 8 years of Obama like policies because of this guy. Sure wish Trump came across as a stand up guy & a president but unfortunately he doesn't in my eyes.
It sucks to think of what will happen if he loses. Dems will take over & we will be back to 2% growth if we are lucky in the markets. Gonna be a heated 2020 across this nation. Sad if you ask me, Trump could of been a shoe in for reelection if he was somewhat normal. Hes gonna be in for the fight of his life & possibly his freedom, you know they will go after him once he's no longer president. JMHO
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Post by ipsophakto on Jun 28, 2019 2:53:00 GMT -5
I like the quote I just read we've become a nation so divided that if accusations are made against someone we support, then we support the indefensible. Everybody knows what Trump was like in New York. They all know what type of person he was Quit denying it just admit that he's a dirtbag and you're going to vote for him anyway. I guess you believe that all these 20 to 30 something women are just making things up against Trump? At least most of my Republican friends know he's a dirtbag but they're going to vote for him anyway no matter what. What about the tape that he says he's just going to go grab women by the pussy cuz they let him? Is that not a dirtbag for you? Like I said before I don't want eight years of Democrats in office but I think that's what we're going to get because this guy just comes across as a dirtbag. And I don't think the American people are going to vote him back in office. Who's dividing the nation? Democrats used to be for a secure border, now they're for having open borders - and all the ills that brings. Democrats used to be for the working man, now their for free stuff - including free healthcare for illegal aliens - paid for by.....(mumble). They used to be for clean, orderly cities, now they preside over feces-pits riddled with needles and homeless. Statements like "everybody knows" are not even rooted in reality. People differ in their opinions about Trump. Ordering people to "quit denying" your perception of him isn't going to work. I'd suggest you excavate how your opinions of him were formed. Trump isn't a "dirtbag" unless you mainline the Mainstream Media narrative doing everything they can to smear him. You might want to ask what has those media outlets behaving like lunatics and throwing all semblance of journalistic integrity out the window. Trump is correct, by the time he's out of office after his 2nd term, those media outlets will be shuttered. They are collapsing. You're fixated on that locker-room-talk tape - made of him in a private conversation talking about fame-culture and the wild things groupies do and tolerate. Talk is not action. My goodness....a man who talked loosely, sexually.... in private....SHOCKING! (LOL) By the end of this year the DNC will be politically extinct. Their roster of candidates is a certified clown show. There will be no 8 years of Democrats after Trump. That party has capsized already, cleaved in half between the radical "Democrat Socialists" and an aged-out old guard barely hanging on to digestion - let alone power. Trump tells it like it is, doesn't pull punches, and people love that. He makes promises and keeps those promises - and knows how to inspire those achievements. People often mistake his tactic of talking past the sale for "lying". Saying "Mexico is going to pay for the wall" isn't a LIE, it is a motivator, it is an aspiration - and not the kind of political assertion to judge like you would a promise to pick someone up at the airport at a scheduled time. "YOU SAID YOU'D PICK ME UP AT 4:00 PM!!!! But you sent an uber instead and it's 15 min late, YOU LIED!". An assertion like "Mexico will pay for the wall" gets attention, rattles and distracts opposition, motivates supporters - and - will be made accurate by virtue of the terms of the USMCA as well as Mexico's newfound willingness to send troops to stop a bumrush on our southern border. It doesn't mean they cut a check and make a ledger entry for "The US border wall", it means that over time the terms of the agreement favor the US more than enough to pay for the wall when compared to the absurdly unfair NAFTA agreement. The thing that most worries and enrages the entrenched powers of the establishment parties (Dems and GOP) and their sentinels embedded in the bureaucracy - is that they have no leverage over Trump, no mutually assured destruction pact with him. Their normal mode of succession is to make sure the guy THEY pick to come in is as compromised and crooked as they are - thus OWNED and easy to control. Those kind of puppet show elections are over. This age-old Blackmail backscratching was the putrid glue holding things together. That's going away. The judicial benches and House, Senate, Agencies are being purged of compromised people - step by step. We're in the final stages of that purge. As for Pelosi, she's projecting. Her district tells the story clearly. Streets of poo, needles, tent-cities amidst vast wealth. On her salary of $187,000? over her entire career - how is it she's worth over 100 Million? She's not serving the people of her district, she's serving cartels. She's the one who should lawyer up and brace for prison, same for Feinstein, Schiff, Schumer, and plenty more.
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Post by ipsophakto on Jun 28, 2019 3:08:44 GMT -5
I get it taxx I just think Trump's got so much baggage & he's despised by a lot of folks. I think the GOP could be stuck with another 8 years of Obama like policies because of this guy. Sure wish Trump came across as a stand up guy & a president but unfortunately he doesn't in my eyes. It sucks to think of what will happen if he loses. Dems will take over & we will be back to 2% growth if we are lucky in the markets. Gonna be a heated 2020 across this nation. Sad if you ask me, Trump could of been a shoe in for reelection if he was somewhat normal. Hes gonna be in for the fight of his life & possibly his freedom, you know they will go after him once he's no longer president. JMHO You are correct that if Trump lost they'd go full-despot and further reveal just how unhinged they are. If you showed me the kinds of things the media says and does these days 5 or 10 years ago - I'd say that's impossible, crazy. For that reason....Trump and those helping him have absolutely no intention of letting that happen. Heck, they've PLANNED for this. The media is losing its mind because they used to call the shots, they used to be the filter and the scribes, the translators of "truth". The internet t-boned their media monopoly on perception, and now the tech giants are revving up their Orwellian censorship chops. ....it won't work.
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Post by ipsophakto on Jun 28, 2019 3:21:55 GMT -5
cc... you don't have a choice IMO, it's Trump the dirt bag or Socialist (think Venezuela), liars (both parties) and harassing Dems who do nothing for the good old USA. The Dems now admit there's a problem at the border after years of saying there was not a problem. ...not only did they admit it, they tried to blame Trump. (shocker!) Months ago Trump declares an emergency, offers DACA amnesty for money to build the wall. "Get lost!" - they said, "There's no emergency! Fake News!" Then, once they have to concede there is indeed an emergency, they cynically blame Trump - use cropped pictures of detention centers from 2015 under Obama and try to pass those off as "Trump's Auschwitz!". Sheesh, seriously? Who crosses Mexico and risks a deadly border crossing with human traffickers to break INTO "Auschwitz" Texas? Here's the problem.... they know there's a problem, but their cartel masters don't want a wall or secure ports of entry. All that talk of having any kind of border is now gone - and it was just choreographed placation when they did say it - for decades. The loophole-riddled NAFTA agreement is going away - and that was their pipeline for contraband and kickbacks. So....They ONLY want open boards, absolutely no border at all.
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Post by Blitz on Jun 28, 2019 6:17:52 GMT -5
On a serious note... in my thread about the whole coup attempt by Obama / Hillary I mentioned the blackmail layer used to compromise politicians and officials. Trump never had sex with Stormy. She admitted that. You’ll find out eventually why she was paid....and it wasn’t for sex. Lol On a less serious note... *How repulsive do you have to be for a porn star to deny having sex with you... * nypost.com/2018/01/30/stormy-daniels-now-denies-ever-having-an-affair-with-trump/ *Fact checked
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